II've been pondering the absolutely aberrant behavior of the man who occupies the White House (the People's House). This man in Our House has called for the death of our Senator Mark Kelly. Why aren't all the citizens of Arizona (let alone citizens of this nation) yelling and screaming from the rooftops for the arrest and conviction of this criminal Donald John Trump. There is nothing acceptable or permissible about this out burst. For me, standing by and allowing these words to pass by makes me complicit. How humiliating to have as our leader a man who constantly embarrasses our nation and threatens the lives of its citizens. Shame on us for not speaking up sooner.
The parallel has been clear for some time but the view is coming into ever sharper focus. This is the most mind chilling thing that could have happened here in the USA given the story of the Holocaust that we grew up with. I recall being stunned to learn from my mother that neighbors turned neighbors in to be imprisoned, tortured, etc. Watching it here now is almost incomprehensible, and yet we have MAGA cheering on the Nazis. Simply incomprehensible even while in full view. Yes, I have always wondered why the Germans let it happen and now I know it must be human nature to go along to get along. What I do not understand is how our Constitution never planned for it and has no way to self-enforce.
Upon their farewell meeting Göring asks Kelly if he is going to report that the Nazis were just people. Kelly did so when he was interviewed and said that given the right leadership, half the population would walk over the bodies of the other half. "Here, in America?" "Yes," he says.
I saw it too and liked it very much. I have also visited Nuremberg and was educated by the history museum. Too many parallels to now with rump and ICE 🥲
Saw this film as well. You know I'm a massive history nerd, so I was waiting to see how much "creative license" would be taken. The answer: close to NONE. Conversations, probably, but it was so very accurate in depicting not only the banality of evil and the manipulative narcissism of Goering, but the actual resistance of Truman's Washington political circle to holding a trial at all: "We won, isn't that enough?" It wasn't enough in WWI, and the punishment doled out at Versailles incubated the sense of revenge Hitler employed: "I am your retribution" --sound familiar?
Crowe did a magnificent job not only portraying Goering but crafting this film into a masterpiece of authenticity. Now I would like to see someone make a film about Benjamin Ferencz, the American lawyer (Army veteran, served with Patton) recruited by Jackson to prosecute The Einsatzgruppen Case against the Death Squads whose members main defense was "I was just following orders." Think ICE goon squads.
Twenty-two defendants were charged with murdering over a million people.
All of the defendants were convicted. Thirteen were sentenced to death.
Ferencz was only twenty-seven years old at the time. It was his first case. He died in April 2023 at age 103.
But our government's legal arm has told our military it's OK to follow illegal orders and murder people in international waters.
I believe the six brave Senators who speak to our military understand the next step by this administration is to assure them that they may follow orders to murder people on American soil. Part of their kill first, ask later approach. They are already encouraging the ragtag militias - how long before they try to formalize them.
Side note - I think Trump welcomed Mamdani because he realizes he is losing control and sees Mamdani, rightly or wrongly, as an ally
Why do you think the first thing Orange Piggy did was fire all the JAG attorneys in the Pentagon? But just because Bondi et al say something does not make it true in a court of law--or an international criminal court. These bootlickers have proven over and over again they not only do not understand the law, they can't even follow standard grand jury procedure.
They HAVE formalized ragtag militias-- they are ICE. Does not make them legitimate or legal. Their trials will come. I just hope I'm alive to see them brought before the Hague.
Trying to manipulate the Mayor-elect because he digs popular &/or powerful charismatic guys, and knows his (dump's) ratings are in the toilet. Mamdani is way too brilliant to fall for it, but certainly will use any advantage to do right by NYC.
My father was a Army doctor at the trials in part because he spoke fluent German. Believe it or not I have Goering s bath mat (as well as lots of other memorabilia) from the hotel prison Goering was held in. I think Dad liberated the mat so that Goering might slip and fall to his death. Dad didn't talk much about the trials other than that he thought the Nazis were all monsters.
By having three co-equal branches of Government, our founders tried to subvert the type of corrupt leadership that overtook Germany, but since two of these co-equal branches have abandoned their moral responsibilities, we see the same patterns being repeated here.
And the"4th Estate" ? Corporate oligarch media propaganda machines. Not "mainstream."
Not "legacy" as they like to style themselves.
Corporate. Propaganda. Machines. Which did everything they could to demonize &/or erase Pres. Biden towards the end of his term. And they succeeded. He was far from perfect, but in much he was right-on. Compare & contrast the coverage of him, vs. of nazi-fascist rapist racist felon45.34.47!
Your sentence about ordinary people being willing to climb over the backs of people to grasp power was so eerie and frightening. Isn't that what Marco Rubio and most of the Cabinet have done? They know what they're doing is against civility and the moral laws of the land, but they continue to do it and support an authoritarian-wanna-be. I read someone else's comment that they had more compassion for MTG because she was a true-believer who came to understand that the President had no compassion or caring for what his policies did to others, as long as he could grift millions from them. I want to see this movie!
My father interrogated Nazis including Hitler’s pilot, a highly regarded colonel, by the US top command. She was waiting for Hitler and Eva Braun to fly them to Bavaria, but of course, they never showed. And that’s how Dad knew there were none of Hitler’s diaries supposedly revealed but faked in the 80s. I saw Nuremberg. Such shock at the parallels. Watched all eight (8) of Netflix’s HITLER and the NAZIS Evil on Trial all day today. More horrific parallels. In this age of media and our interest, not complacency(!), I believe we will not stand for the Trump regime much longer. So very proud of our Senator Kelly and the others for speaking up! There will be more and more!!
I have noticed it opens with the ads in it from the original. If I have done something I shouldn’t have done in pasting it from Facebook, please let me know.
I am a psychiatrist, retired, and am very interested in so many things I haven’t known about American psychiatry. My British grandfather was psychiatrically hospitalized after the war with severe depression, I think because of all the stress of the war and because of the terrible diet due to rationing. I was told by a family member that his psychiatrist was one of the British psychiatrists at Nuremberg.
II've been pondering the absolutely aberrant behavior of the man who occupies the White House (the People's House). This man in Our House has called for the death of our Senator Mark Kelly. Why aren't all the citizens of Arizona (let alone citizens of this nation) yelling and screaming from the rooftops for the arrest and conviction of this criminal Donald John Trump. There is nothing acceptable or permissible about this out burst. For me, standing by and allowing these words to pass by makes me complicit. How humiliating to have as our leader a man who constantly embarrasses our nation and threatens the lives of its citizens. Shame on us for not speaking up sooner.
How do you suggest we do this with a corrupt and complicit DOJ and SCOTUS?
Where/ how do we protest? What will be effective when the Congressional GOP in control just rolls over and plays dead?
Write to Senator Kelly and thank him for his courage, but also consider how else can we topple this regime.
My friends and I have written to the International Criminal Court at The Hague to suggest they prosecute Orange Piggy for crimes against humanity: initially for cutting USAID off and starving hundreds of thousands of Africans to death, but now also for bombing Venezuelan fishing boats without evidence.https://www.government.nl/topics/international-peace-and-security/international-legal-order/the-international-criminal-court-icc
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Looks like you are already on the way.
We cannot give up
The parallel has been clear for some time but the view is coming into ever sharper focus. This is the most mind chilling thing that could have happened here in the USA given the story of the Holocaust that we grew up with. I recall being stunned to learn from my mother that neighbors turned neighbors in to be imprisoned, tortured, etc. Watching it here now is almost incomprehensible, and yet we have MAGA cheering on the Nazis. Simply incomprehensible even while in full view. Yes, I have always wondered why the Germans let it happen and now I know it must be human nature to go along to get along. What I do not understand is how our Constitution never planned for it and has no way to self-enforce.
Upon their farewell meeting Göring asks Kelly if he is going to report that the Nazis were just people. Kelly did so when he was interviewed and said that given the right leadership, half the population would walk over the bodies of the other half. "Here, in America?" "Yes," he says.
I saw it too and liked it very much. I have also visited Nuremberg and was educated by the history museum. Too many parallels to now with rump and ICE 🥲
Saw this film as well. You know I'm a massive history nerd, so I was waiting to see how much "creative license" would be taken. The answer: close to NONE. Conversations, probably, but it was so very accurate in depicting not only the banality of evil and the manipulative narcissism of Goering, but the actual resistance of Truman's Washington political circle to holding a trial at all: "We won, isn't that enough?" It wasn't enough in WWI, and the punishment doled out at Versailles incubated the sense of revenge Hitler employed: "I am your retribution" --sound familiar?
Crowe did a magnificent job not only portraying Goering but crafting this film into a masterpiece of authenticity. Now I would like to see someone make a film about Benjamin Ferencz, the American lawyer (Army veteran, served with Patton) recruited by Jackson to prosecute The Einsatzgruppen Case against the Death Squads whose members main defense was "I was just following orders." Think ICE goon squads.
Twenty-two defendants were charged with murdering over a million people.
All of the defendants were convicted. Thirteen were sentenced to death.
Ferencz was only twenty-seven years old at the time. It was his first case. He died in April 2023 at age 103.
But our government's legal arm has told our military it's OK to follow illegal orders and murder people in international waters.
I believe the six brave Senators who speak to our military understand the next step by this administration is to assure them that they may follow orders to murder people on American soil. Part of their kill first, ask later approach. They are already encouraging the ragtag militias - how long before they try to formalize them.
Side note - I think Trump welcomed Mamdani because he realizes he is losing control and sees Mamdani, rightly or wrongly, as an ally
Why do you think the first thing Orange Piggy did was fire all the JAG attorneys in the Pentagon? But just because Bondi et al say something does not make it true in a court of law--or an international criminal court. These bootlickers have proven over and over again they not only do not understand the law, they can't even follow standard grand jury procedure.
They HAVE formalized ragtag militias-- they are ICE. Does not make them legitimate or legal. Their trials will come. I just hope I'm alive to see them brought before the Hague.
Trying to manipulate the Mayor-elect because he digs popular &/or powerful charismatic guys, and knows his (dump's) ratings are in the toilet. Mamdani is way too brilliant to fall for it, but certainly will use any advantage to do right by NYC.
My father was a Army doctor at the trials in part because he spoke fluent German. Believe it or not I have Goering s bath mat (as well as lots of other memorabilia) from the hotel prison Goering was held in. I think Dad liberated the mat so that Goering might slip and fall to his death. Dad didn't talk much about the trials other than that he thought the Nazis were all monsters.
Why do you want to be physically close to anything G'ng used?❓🤮
By having three co-equal branches of Government, our founders tried to subvert the type of corrupt leadership that overtook Germany, but since two of these co-equal branches have abandoned their moral responsibilities, we see the same patterns being repeated here.
2? All 3!
And the"4th Estate" ? Corporate oligarch media propaganda machines. Not "mainstream."
Not "legacy" as they like to style themselves.
Corporate. Propaganda. Machines. Which did everything they could to demonize &/or erase Pres. Biden towards the end of his term. And they succeeded. He was far from perfect, but in much he was right-on. Compare & contrast the coverage of him, vs. of nazi-fascist rapist racist felon45.34.47!
Yes, the current tragedy/morality tale will not be complete until the evildoers are dealt with.
Your sentence about ordinary people being willing to climb over the backs of people to grasp power was so eerie and frightening. Isn't that what Marco Rubio and most of the Cabinet have done? They know what they're doing is against civility and the moral laws of the land, but they continue to do it and support an authoritarian-wanna-be. I read someone else's comment that they had more compassion for MTG because she was a true-believer who came to understand that the President had no compassion or caring for what his policies did to others, as long as he could grift millions from them. I want to see this movie!
We saw it last night. It had the same effect upon us and the reaction of the audience was also the same. Your review is very good. I'll share it.
My father interrogated Nazis including Hitler’s pilot, a highly regarded colonel, by the US top command. She was waiting for Hitler and Eva Braun to fly them to Bavaria, but of course, they never showed. And that’s how Dad knew there were none of Hitler’s diaries supposedly revealed but faked in the 80s. I saw Nuremberg. Such shock at the parallels. Watched all eight (8) of Netflix’s HITLER and the NAZIS Evil on Trial all day today. More horrific parallels. In this age of media and our interest, not complacency(!), I believe we will not stand for the Trump regime much longer. So very proud of our Senator Kelly and the others for speaking up! There will be more and more!!
I kluged this on Kelley from a site on Facebook.
I have noticed it opens with the ads in it from the original. If I have done something I shouldn’t have done in pasting it from Facebook, please let me know.
I am a psychiatrist, retired, and am very interested in so many things I haven’t known about American psychiatry. My British grandfather was psychiatrically hospitalized after the war with severe depression, I think because of all the stress of the war and because of the terrible diet due to rationing. I was told by a family member that his psychiatrist was one of the British psychiatrists at Nuremberg.
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My father interrogated Nazis even Hitler’s pilot, a colonel and a wo